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jigga · 09-15-2007, 12:00 AM

HD DVD goes one better: 51GB disc approved
Rob Mead

If you believe the Blu-ray Disc Association, the battle for high definition optical formats is all about storage capacity: 50GB for its format; a measly 30GB for HD DVD. Now all that has changed.

On Friday the DVD Forum - the industry body that sets DVD and next-gen disc standards - approved Toshiba's proposal for a triple-layer HD DVD offering 51GB capacity. That's a whole 1GB better than the best that Blu-ray can do.

So what does this mean?

In reality, not much. Despite the Blu-ray camp's persistent boasting, very few films actually use Blu-ray's 50GB capacity; while the HD DVD Promotion Group argues that it's not capacity that counts, but the kind of audio-video compression used. The HD DVD camp has always maintained that the H.264 and VC-1 codecs it uses are more efficient than the MPEG2 codec used on many Blu-ray discs.

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thats fucken awesome.. Sony definetly gonna be

. If blu-ray fails, Sony fails.. this is not a good look for Sony.

Kunnin' · 09-15-2007, 12:06 AM

Blu Ray won't fail, I think that's already been established. Blu Ray are working on the 75/100GB disc right now.

I don't see why your so excited about any news against Sony everytime despite how little it will actually effect anything.

HD DVD players are like half the price of Blu Ray players and they have sold like half the amount Blu Ray's have.

Also this is mad old.

jigga · 09-15-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oblivious_Obstruction

Blu Ray won't fail, I think that's already been established. Blu Ray are working on the 75GB disc right now.

I don't see why your so excited about any news against Sony everytime despite how little it will actually effect anything.

HD DVD players are like half the price of Blu Ray players and they have sold like half the amount Blu Ray's have.

It doesn't matter when Blu Ray expands, so will HD DVD, just like they stated in the article. lol @ being excited about the news ? I post a news article and all of a sudden im excited??, well I guess since you posted to 'my 'exciting news' than you are 'excited' too..

Kunnin' · 09-15-2007, 12:14 AM

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thats fucken awesome..

That sure sounds mighty excited for something over half a year old. Also a triple layer disc being one gig bigger than a dual layer disc is nothing impressive at all, if anything it's more a failure than anything. If you think HD has any chance of coming out on top your getting far to involved in dickriding anything affiliated with Microsoft and not Sony.

jigga · 09-15-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Oblivious_Obstruction

That sure sounds mighty excited for something over half a year old. Also a triple layer disc being one gig bigger than a dual layer disc is nothing impressive at all, if anything it's more a failure than anything. If you think HD has any chance of coming out on top your getting far to involved in dickriding anything affiliated with Microsoft and not Sony.

I guess it can go both ways, yes ? if you think Blu Ray has any chance of coming out on top your getting far to involved in dickriding anything affiliated with Sony and not Microsoft. Thats nothing exciting, its called 'let the battles begin with producers.'

Kunnin' · 09-15-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jigga

I guess it can go both ways, yes ? if you think Blu Ray has any chance of coming out on top your getting far to involved in dickriding anything affiliated with Sony and not Microsoft. Thats nothing exciting, its called 'let the battles begin with producers.'

Considering I don't own a PS3, your statement is invalid. I support the PS3 on here purely because there are various members like you that get aroused by anything against PS3, as has been proven once again. You can't appreciate another system, it's simple, don't talk about it. It just makes you look incredibly sad to see you post day after day about how happy you are that circuit boards and chips aren't doing as well as expected.

Grahf16 · 09-15-2007, 12:31 AM

Well, this is good news because you really can't argue with the capacity issue, but it hardly plays a role in the outcome of the formats.

The install base, and movie selection are what are going to determine it in the long run.

Blu Ray has both covered mainly because of the PS3, but HD DVD isn't giving up without a fight. Not to mention everybody that has an HD DVD player buy HD movies for it. I don't know ANYBODY that has a standalone Blu Ray player. And a lot of peeps that I know don't even bother buying movies on Blu Ray either.

In$anity · 09-15-2007, 04:40 AM

lmao @ the 360 threads, fanboy threads etc. i could give a flying fuck. the fact is this;

the console war is FAR from over. Far, far from over... The Wii has almost sold the same amount as the 360 in HALF THE TIME and the PS3 sales are steady too.

So the sales thing is just starting to balance out a bit. The best games for each console are not out yet, so quit complaining.

Come back in 3 years time n we'll see who won

Grahf16 · 09-15-2007, 04:48 AM

What the hell are you talking about?

This thread is about Blu Ray vs. HD DVD, it has nothing to do with the 360, Wii, or the PS3.

Give that shit a rest for once please.

In$anity · 09-15-2007, 05:01 AM

if you didn't know, the PS3 is a Blu Ray Player so its applicable. so you shut the fuck up

09-15-2007, 12:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
jigga Underboss Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: T-Dot Posts: 1,766	HD DVD Steps up there game, Blu Ray in trouble HD DVD goes one better: 51GB disc approved Rob Mead If you believe the Blu-ray Disc Association, the battle for high definition optical formats is all about storage capacity: 50GB for its format; a measly 30GB for HD DVD. Now all that has changed. On Friday the DVD Forum - the industry body that sets DVD and next-gen disc standards - approved Toshiba's proposal for a triple-layer HD DVD offering 51GB capacity. That's a whole 1GB better than the best that Blu-ray can do. So what does this mean? In reality, not much. Despite the Blu-ray camp's persistent boasting, very few films actually use Blu-ray's 50GB capacity; while the HD DVD Promotion Group argues that it's not capacity that counts, but the kind of audio-video compression used. The HD DVD camp has always maintained that the H.264 and VC-1 codecs it uses are more efficient than the MPEG2 codec used on many Blu-ray discs. ------------------------------ thats fucken awesome.. Sony definetly gonna be . If blu-ray fails, Sony fails.. this is not a good look for Sony. __________________

09-15-2007, 12:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kunnin' Rap GodFather Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: That Place, With Those People Posts: 14,306	Blu Ray won't fail, I think that's already been established. Blu Ray are working on the 75/100GB disc right now. I don't see why your so excited about any news against Sony everytime despite how little it will actually effect anything. HD DVD players are like half the price of Blu Ray players and they have sold like half the amount Blu Ray's have. Also this is mad old. __________________ -FREE GRAPE- Last edited by Kunnin'; 09-15-2007 at 12:08 AM..

09-15-2007, 04:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
In$anity Rap GodFather Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sin city Posts: 10,757	lmao @ the 360 threads, fanboy threads etc. i could give a flying fuck. the fact is this; the console war is FAR from over. Far, far from over... The Wii has almost sold the same amount as the 360 in HALF THE TIME and the PS3 sales are steady too. So the sales thing is just starting to balance out a bit. The best games for each console are not out yet, so quit complaining. Come back in 3 years time n we'll see who won __________________ nothin more to say

09-15-2007, 05:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
In$anity Rap GodFather Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sin city Posts: 10,757	if you didn't know, the PS3 is a Blu Ray Player so its applicable. so you shut the fuck up __________________ nothin more to say

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09-15-2007, 12:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Grahf16 Rap GodFather Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 6,148	Well, this is good news because you really can't argue with the capacity issue, but it hardly plays a role in the outcome of the formats. The install base, and movie selection are what are going to determine it in the long run. Blu Ray has both covered mainly because of the PS3, but HD DVD isn't giving up without a fight. Not to mention everybody that has an HD DVD player buy HD movies for it. I don't know ANYBODY that has a standalone Blu Ray player. And a lot of peeps that I know don't even bother buying movies on Blu Ray either.

09-15-2007, 04:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Grahf16 Rap GodFather Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 6,148	What the hell are you talking about? This thread is about Blu Ray vs. HD DVD, it has nothing to do with the 360, Wii, or the PS3. Give that shit a rest for once please.