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**Rs0n1sT** · 03-20-2008, 12:53 AM

Here's an excellent point (kind of) made by a Lucasarts rep with regards to their upcoming environment-shifting shooter Fracture:

While a lot of games are pushing the limits of what can be done visually in games, we also wanted to push gameplay to levels that literally could not be done on the previous generation of hardware.

Putting the hype for their own game aside, this is something that's been shitting me off for months now. Here were are, more than two years into this console cycle, and how many games have given us new gameplay, rather than just new graphics? Let's see, we've got Dead Rising, and we've got....um....well, maybe Oblivion, and...that's about it. Disappointing.

LucasArts: Most games don't take advantage of next-gen hardware

Saw Bodian · 03-20-2008, 04:35 AM

LucasArts, didn't they make those shitty Star Wars games?

bigfitswell1982 · 03-20-2008, 07:20 AM

Yeah I've noticed that most "Next Gen" games are really Xbox or PS2 games with HD graphics.

kharmon · 03-20-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfitswell1982

Yeah I've noticed that most "Next Gen" games are really Xbox or PS2 games with HD graphics.

Agreed, the only real next-gen experince so far i have played would be COD4 due to the sheer atmosphere the game creates. The next new big change in gaming will come from FFXIII + MGS4 imo single player wise.

Grahf16 · 03-20-2008, 01:21 PM

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Agreed, the only real next-gen experince so far i have played would be COD4 due to the sheer atmosphere the game creates. The next new big change in gaming will come from FFXIII + MGS4 imo single player wise.

I don't think having constant cutscenes on a Bluray disc would be considered next gen.

Besides, you guys are forgetting a LOT of games that are considered "next gen games"

PGR3 - Being able to race in the cockpit of the racer's seat with 100% accurate indashes, working mirrors and shit like that. Not to mention fully rendered crowds that dash back when you get too close

Dirt - Full on damage modeling with realistic physics that takes Colin McRae to the next level.

Ratchet And Clank Future: Tools Of Destruction - Obviously provides an experience that couldn't be done on the PS2 or XBox

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - See Ratchet And Clank

Timeshift - The ability to REALISTICALLY manipulate time to turn the tides in battle

Besides, Fracture is NOT the first 3D game to have altered environments. Otogi on XBox was, hell even Motorstorm and Full Auto had altered environments.

kharmon · 03-20-2008, 01:24 PM

I get what your saying Graph, but when i first got my ps3, it didnt feel like the big jump from ps1 to ps2

Grahf16 · 03-20-2008, 01:54 PM

I personally wasn't impressed when making the jump to PS2 (since I had a dreamcast). When I went from Super Nintendo to PS1 though, I damn near shit my pants.

SNES to PSX - 10/10
PSX to Dreamcast - 9/10
Dreamcast to PS2 - 5/10
PS2 to XBox - 4/10
XBox to XBox 360 (regular TV) - 5/10
XBox 360 (Regular TV) to XBox 360 (HDTV) - 10/10

**Rs0n1sT** · 03-20-2008, 03:14 PM

i agree wit that

loyaltothegame · 03-20-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kharmon

I get what your saying Graph, but when i first got my ps3, it didnt feel like the big jump from ps1 to ps2

thats because you dont have a HDTV.

Grahf16 · 03-20-2008, 05:20 PM

Another great game with true next gen experience was hands down Crackdown for me. Playing that game just had such a awesome ass experience (ESPECIALLY on Co Op).

03-20-2008, 12:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rs0n1sT RGFMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BK/NYC/718 Posts: 9,792	Why Don't Next-Gen Games Give Us Next-Gen Gameplay? Here's an excellent point (kind of) made by a Lucasarts rep with regards to their upcoming environment-shifting shooter Fracture: While a lot of games are pushing the limits of what can be done visually in games, we also wanted to push gameplay to levels that literally could not be done on the previous generation of hardware. Putting the hype for their own game aside, this is something that's been shitting me off for months now. Here were are, more than two years into this console cycle, and how many games have given us new gameplay, rather than just new graphics? Let's see, we've got Dead Rising, and we've got....um....well, maybe Oblivion, and...that's about it. Disappointing. LucasArts: Most games don't take advantage of next-gen hardware __________________

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Saw Bodian Gangster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 374	LucasArts, didn't they make those shitty Star Wars games? __________________

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bigfitswell1982 Capo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Chicago, IL Posts: 748	Yeah I've noticed that most "Next Gen" games are really Xbox or PS2 games with HD graphics. __________________ Don't mess with the best or you'll get beat like the rest. :killthema

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Rs0n1sT RGFMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BK/NYC/718 Posts: 9,792	i agree wit that __________________

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03-20-2008, 01:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
kharmon Untouchable Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,228	I get what your saying Graph, but when i first got my ps3, it didnt feel like the big jump from ps1 to ps2

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Grahf16 Rap GodFather Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 6,144	I personally wasn't impressed when making the jump to PS2 (since I had a dreamcast). When I went from Super Nintendo to PS1 though, I damn near shit my pants. SNES to PSX - 10/10 PSX to Dreamcast - 9/10 Dreamcast to PS2 - 5/10 PS2 to XBox - 4/10 XBox to XBox 360 (regular TV) - 5/10 XBox 360 (Regular TV) to XBox 360 (HDTV) - 10/10

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Grahf16 Rap GodFather Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 6,144	Another great game with true next gen experience was hands down Crackdown for me. Playing that game just had such a awesome ass experience (ESPECIALLY on Co Op).