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Old 04-12-2008, 02:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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wasnt the gtr's time done on a damp track aswell? its nurinburg, shits always damp
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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wasnt the gtr's time done on a damp track aswell? its nurinburg, shits always damp
It was supposedly dry with several wet spots from previous rain. You're right though, I don't think I've ever seen an N'Ring run under perfect conditions. The manufacturer just wants to say "It could have been better" that's all...

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The GT-R V is gonna be faster than the ZR1, but this ~7:40 lap was done on a damp track, driven by engineer w/ a passenger. On a dry track with a good driver, I'm sure they'll shave at least a few seconds off that time. That 7:25 isn't official either.
Co-sign 100%. I'm confident the ZR1 will surpass the GT-R's but the Spec-V will ultimately be the victor. Funny though, is that nowadays we have a bunch of companies aiming to achieve the fastest production car record. The Lexus LF-A is rumored to have run a 7:24 time, the Nissan GT-R Spec V is rumored to have run a 7:25 time, Chevrolet ZR1 ran a 7:40 (ran by an engineer w/passanger), and the Pagani Zonda F recently timed an official 7:27. Holy crap talk about ridiculous performance!
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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notice all these other cars have more hp than the gtr
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notice all these other cars have more hp than the gtr
Well the GT-R's brake horsepower is actually in the 507-515 range but everyone assume the one listed on the website was the bhp (it's actually the NET). Still you're absolutely right, though, you can't just throw on a 100 horses and hope it solves the problem because it'd just be even more embarrassing. Think about it, as much as I love the ZR1 right now I can easily debunk the attacks against Nissan:

1) Even with a passanger the GT-R will still be the heavier car.
2) ZR1 has 100 more hp and still pulled off a lower time.
3) Don't discredit engineer drivers because Chevy engineers can drive a heck of a lot better than most owners on the Corvette forums.
4) Wet spots vs. damp track? This is up to you to determine which is worse.
5) Stop assuming the GT-R has cutslicks. Potenza tires were used and even if they're better than what's on the 911 turbo or 'Vette it's still on the production model (premium edition as tested).
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the zr1 just follow the american principle of "if all else fails, add more HP!!!"

which back in the golden era, made some classic yank tanks, but nowdays it aint gonna cut it
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