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Grand Hustle · 04-21-2007, 11:04 AM

Raiders are considering signing Tim Rattay, and drafting Calvin Johson

$chmo · 04-21-2007, 02:35 PM

nah man they just lookin for a QB to come and play while Russell gets ready. kinda like the whole Jon Kitna and Carson Palmer thing was in Cincy. im sure they will still draft Russell.....

Grand Hustle · 04-21-2007, 02:36 PM

They should have got a QB in the off-season because Calvin Johnson is the future of the WR position

$chmo · 04-21-2007, 02:41 PM

yeah for sure man. he gonna be pretty good for sure. they did try for Garcia tho..and i heard that they was tryin to get Josh McCown from the lions for like a 4th round pick or something and they wouldnt do it. that dude isnt worth it. Rattay isnt all that great either tho. they should have kept Aaron Brooks

xcluesiv · 04-22-2007, 02:57 AM

the raiders ain't been right since they lost to the patriots a couple years back

theFRANCHISE · 04-23-2007, 09:48 PM

If Oakland was smart, they'd recognize the fact that they have more needs than QB. Granted, QB might be their most glaring need, but they can always draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round, or sign a free agent.

If I was Al Davis, I would trade the 1st overall pick to the highest bidder. I'd grab a bunch of draft picks, and maybe some players in the process, and I'd rebuild through the draft. If Davis is as great of a talent evaluator as he claims to be, he can work magic in the draft with the multiple draft picks he'd acquire by trading down.

Getting a QB of the future with the 1st overall pick is hit-or-miss. Since the 1982 draft, the only three QB's taken 1st overall that have won a Super Bowl (as the starting QB) are Peyton Manning, John Elway, and Troy Aikman.

That's Manning, Elway, and Aikman compared to Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Tim Couch, Michael Vick, David Carr, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, and Alex Smith.

Granted, Vick, Carr, Palmer, the younger Manning, and Smith still have chances to prove themselves. But Vick and Carr's time is running out.

Fact of the matter is, patience is a virtue here.

Oakland needs more than a QB. One man can't do it all. Not JaMarcus Russell, not Brady Quinn, not even a once-in-a-lifetime wideout like Calvin Johnson.

azn_rice559 · 04-23-2007, 11:15 PM

they shoulda got david carr in free agency. they're messing up by taking johnson in the draft.

J East 26 · 04-25-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theFRANCHISE

If Oakland was smart, they'd recognize the fact that they have more needs than QB. Granted, QB might be their most glaring need, but they can always draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round, or sign a free agent.

If I was Al Davis, I would trade the 1st overall pick to the highest bidder. I'd grab a bunch of draft picks, and maybe some players in the process, and I'd rebuild through the draft. If Davis is as great of a talent evaluator as he claims to be, he can work magic in the draft with the multiple draft picks he'd acquire by trading down.

Getting a QB of the future with the 1st overall pick is hit-or-miss. Since the 1982 draft, the only three QB's taken 1st overall that have won a Super Bowl (as the starting QB) are Peyton Manning, John Elway, and Troy Aikman.

That's Manning, Elway, and Aikman compared to Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Tim Couch, Michael Vick, David Carr, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, and Alex Smith.

Granted, Vick, Carr, Palmer, the younger Manning, and Smith still have chances to prove themselves. But Vick and Carr's time is running out.

Fact of the matter is, patience is a virtue here.

Oakland needs more than a QB. One man can't do it all. Not JaMarcus Russell, not Brady Quinn, not even a once-in-a-lifetime wideout like Calvin Johnson.

hell yeah...first round recivers are dirt....they come from a smaller school and shine agianst the DB's who arent really good and going pro....

RenewableCash · 04-25-2007, 09:43 PM

i think they have this discussion every year about who is going first and all that jazz and well they wont draft him they will prolly take this guy but in all actuality it is just building up hype for the draft and you and i know this

yungchris_504 · 04-25-2007, 11:18 PM

What actually will sound more believable is the Raiders trading out of the pick...but they will draft Russell

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Grand Hustle Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 15	Raiders might not take a QB Raiders are considering signing Tim Rattay, and drafting Calvin Johson

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$chmo Underboss Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,030	nah man they just lookin for a QB to come and play while Russell gets ready. kinda like the whole Jon Kitna and Carson Palmer thing was in Cincy. im sure they will still draft Russell..... __________________

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$chmo Underboss Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,030	yeah for sure man. he gonna be pretty good for sure. they did try for Garcia tho..and i heard that they was tryin to get Josh McCown from the lions for like a 4th round pick or something and they wouldnt do it. that dude isnt worth it. Rattay isnt all that great either tho. they should have kept Aaron Brooks __________________

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yungchris_504 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 36	What actually will sound more believable is the Raiders trading out of the pick...but they will draft Russell __________________ I am So So So So New Orleans like 1825 Tulane...(Rosenburg Furniture store)

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04-21-2007, 02:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Grand Hustle Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 15	They should have got a QB in the off-season because Calvin Johnson is the future of the WR position

04-22-2007, 02:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
xcluesiv Capo Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 920	the raiders ain't been right since they lost to the patriots a couple years back

04-23-2007, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
theFRANCHISE Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 25	If Oakland was smart, they'd recognize the fact that they have more needs than QB. Granted, QB might be their most glaring need, but they can always draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round, or sign a free agent. If I was Al Davis, I would trade the 1st overall pick to the highest bidder. I'd grab a bunch of draft picks, and maybe some players in the process, and I'd rebuild through the draft. If Davis is as great of a talent evaluator as he claims to be, he can work magic in the draft with the multiple draft picks he'd acquire by trading down. Getting a QB of the future with the 1st overall pick is hit-or-miss. Since the 1982 draft, the only three QB's taken 1st overall that have won a Super Bowl (as the starting QB) are Peyton Manning, John Elway, and Troy Aikman. That's Manning, Elway, and Aikman compared to Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Tim Couch, Michael Vick, David Carr, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, and Alex Smith. Granted, Vick, Carr, Palmer, the younger Manning, and Smith still have chances to prove themselves. But Vick and Carr's time is running out. Fact of the matter is, patience is a virtue here. Oakland needs more than a QB. One man can't do it all. Not JaMarcus Russell, not Brady Quinn, not even a once-in-a-lifetime wideout like Calvin Johnson.

04-23-2007, 11:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
azn_rice559 Don Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fres-No-Town, Central Cali Posts: 2,406	they shoulda got david carr in free agency. they're messing up by taking johnson in the draft.